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Deer Management Discussion Creates 'Uncomfortable Position' for Town Leaders

The Conservation Commission met with Weston Selectmen Wednesday night to talk about the town's 2012 Deer Management Program as well as its future.

 

It takes a high-tension topic for the phrases "deer slobber" and "bloody slaughter" to come up under the same agenda item at a Weston Board of Selectmen meeting.

But the town's 2012 Deer Management Program, which allowed bow hunting on five of Weston's conservation lands, is just such a topic.

Wednesday night, nearly every seat was filled in the first floor conference room at Weston Town Hall by the time Weston Conservation Administrator Michele Grzenda began her presentation.

Grzenda began by explaining the origins of the program, which involved a "handful of letters" selectmen and members of the Conservation Commission received between 2008 and 2010 that expressed concerns about "the burgeoning deer population and its effect on plants, public safety (deer-car collisions) and public health (Lyme disease)."

What followed were several years of public discussions and presentations, informal online surveys, nature walks and formal studies. In one of those online surveys, Grzenda said, 73 percent of the 231 residents who responded said they favored the town taking steps to establish a sustainable deer population, though the survey did not address the particular steps to be taken.

According to state averages, Grzenda explained, there's a region-wide deer overpopulation issue, with the Massachusetts Department of Fisheries and Wildlife estimating 25 deer per square mile in Weston and the surrounding area.

All of the presentations and discussions led to the decision in 2012 "that bow hunting was the only viable option” to curb the Weston deer population.

Grzenda went on to explain that the commission received hunting applications from more than 70 hunters and evaluated each carefully before giving preference to Weston residents and employees.

In all, 26 hunters were approved to hunt in Jericho Forest, Oglivie Forest, Dickson Fields, Blaney Aquifer and Sears Land. Those 26 hunters harvested 18 deer, 10 does and eight bucks, during the fall 2012 hunting season.

The presentation of statistics Wednesday proceeded without incident until Conservation Commission Chairwoman Laurie Bent presented a slide that outlined how quickly hunters reported the deer they shot died.

"It’s a troubling conversation, but we think it’s important to get it out there,” Bent said, showing that half of the deer (9) died in under a minute, one within five minutes, four within 30 minutes, three within one hour and one within five hours.

But Isabella Jancourtz spoke up from the audience to call the slide "disgusting" and admonish officials for getting behind a "bloody slaughter."

Several individuals in the room represented Weston Deer Friends, an organization formed to campaign against the program, but there were others in the room who said they had seen the ill effects deer have had on Weston's landscape and the consequences of deer overpopulation in general.

Patricia Siek said deer have destroyed the trees around the yard of her Miriam Street home, causing so much damage that she can see through the undergrowth and trees to the property behind her own.

"They lick our side-view mirrors," Siek said. "You try to get deer slobber off. I expect to find one in my kitchen one of these days. They look in my kitchen window while we’re eating."

Conservation Commission member Brian Donahue said that the commission will continue to collect data and has and continues to consider other means to stem the growth in the deer population, including contraception.

Donahue said that contraception has proven possible among urban deer herds, but "the amount of effort involved is staggering" in a semi-rural setting like Weston where every doe would need to be darted twice with contraceptive drugs.

“We would love to get [the deer population] down to eight to 10 per square mile, which is what the state recommends," Donahue said, explaining that 18 deer killed last season is a step in the right direction. "I don’t think that will happen overnight, but I think this will slow the rise.”

In addition to the public land deer hunting, hunting on private property is permitted and an average of 15 deer are harvested through that kind of hunting each year, Donahue said. The numbers for 2012 are still being tabulated, but so far the state has recorded that 29 deer were harvested in Weston -- 18 on public conservation land through the Deer Management Program and the rest through private land hunting.

The Conservation Commission has recommended continuing the program in 2013 and would need selectmen's approval to do so.

"The commission thinks that bow hunting is the best way to address this overpopulation for the benefit of residents, the benefit of the forest and even the benefit of the deer who are spared a more gruesome death,” Bent concluded.

Selectmen, however, said they wanted to wait to make any decisions until after a potential Town Meeting vote on the topic.

"It’s an uncomfortable position we’re forced to take,” said Michael Harrity, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, acknowledging that he'd seen the effect deer have on Weston's landscape but understands why people oppose hunting. "I’m encouraged that we’re going to measure what we can measure. We’re all going to be better off if we exchange information and have real data.

"If we’re going to do this, at least as long as I’m a selectman, it’s going to be one year at a time," Harrity said.

The Conservation Commission and Weston Deer Friends have both scheduled public forums prior to Town Meeting to discuss the issue:

  • Conservation Commission forum -- April 23 at 7:30 p.m. at in the Great Room at the Weston Community Center.
  • Weston Deer Friends forum, "Living with Deer and Without Lyme Disease” -- May 1 at 7:30 p.m. at Weston Public Library

Editor's Note: The location of the Conservation Commission forum has been updated.

    Related Topics: Deer Management Program, Weston Deer Friends, Weston board of selectmen, and weston conservation commission

    Diane Anderson

    9:11 am on Friday, March 15, 2013

    After reading this article all I can say is that I really hope town residents will attend the Weston Deer Friends forum at the library on the evening of May 1. Sadly, the Con Com hasn't been telling residents the whole story about the science behind bow hunting and deer population management. Leading scientists, some of whom will be speaking on the forum's panel, have said over and over again that deer populations in suburbs like Weston can't be controlled by hunting. There are other, more effective ways of dealing with deer. I am also disappointed that the Con Com hasn't been up front with residents in regards to the statistics. They have made residents think that both deer/car collisions and the incidents of Lyme disease are on the rise in our town when actually the records show that both were declining before the hunting program began. This was extremely misleading! Come to the Weston Deer Friends forum for accurate data and to hear about safe solutions from scientists and researchers who understand the complexity of this issue.

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    David Hutcheson

    11:06 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013

    I am in favor of the limited, carefully controlled, and well-managed deer hunting on some Town conservation lands. The hunting program began after a very thorough study and was approved unanimously by both our Conservation Commission and our Board of Selectmen. In my view the hunting should continue on a year to year basis, and we should continue to gather information and be open to any new ideas that might be developed. I will attend all events coming up. David Hutcheson

    Isabella Jancourtz

    9:18 am on Friday, March 15, 2013

    Our 3 selectmen should never have made a game changer of a decision like this for the town. Instead, they should have presented their idea to the voters at town meeting.

    Fortunately the voters of Weston will have the chance to vote to take back our town forests from the hunters on Monday, May 13 at town meeting.

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    Conservationist

    9:52 am on Thursday, May 16, 2013

    Mrs Jancourtz, calling the police on a hunter you saw in the woods is hunter harassment. Hunters have every right to walk anywhere they want on public land. Hunters only have to be 500 ft away from a structure if they discharge their firearm. A hunter can walk to and from a stand or track a deer as close to a house as he/she wants as long as it is on public property. The hunter you called the police on could charge you with harassment. I believe in tolerance and diversity in this world and we should all be able to get along regardless of independent views. Let's show respect for one another. A person procuring healthy food for his/her family should never be attacked. I am all for diversity on public lands.

    Gail Bayer

    11:03 am on Friday, March 15, 2013

    One has to question the depth of understanding of a study that results in supporting violence as the only viable option. As a sane person, I cannot accept that there is only one option and that is bow hunting. Give us something else!!!

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    Carol Ott

    11:06 am on Friday, March 15, 2013

    I refuse to believe that violence is a means to solve a problem which we are not sure has any scientific validity. Brian Donahue says (in a guest column in the Town Crier) that he does not want his children to grow up in a "zoo". I do not want anyone's children to grow up in a community which advocates and support and implements violence to animals.
    Carol Ott

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    Sonia Zighelboim

    12:55 pm on Friday, March 15, 2013

    The KEY question in the deer hunting debate is NOT if you like hunting or not, the key question is: "IF there is a deer problem in Weston, will it be solved by hunting deer with bow and arrow?" The answer -based on scientific data- is a resounding NO. In the coming weeks, there will be 3 educational forums where the people of Weston will have a chance to hear from real experts on the issue of deer hunting. Weston Deer Friends is sponsoring one of the Forums on May 1st, at 7 pm in the Library.
    The decision by the Selectmen last year to allow bow and arrow hunting of deer in our public lands, was based on a flawed report from the Conservation Commission. I encourage people to read Brian Donahue's Guest Column in yesterday's Town Crier, so that you realize the bias of the Conservation Commission, and how it had a pre-conceived idea that deer hunting was OK, even before they starting their "studies".
    Please VOTE in our Annual Town Meeting to end Bow and Arrow hunting in our public lands.

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    Syam Cafasso

    4:29 pm on Friday, March 15, 2013

    Weston residents need to be given accurate information and allowed to voice their opinion. Once it has been established that there is a real problem with deer ( I am not convinced that there is), then a humane solution must be sought.
    Last year the wooded land next to us was clear cut, all the trees are gone and we can see our next door neighbors and down the street. To be fair, the problem was not caused because of deer eating our trees , it was caused by a builder who was alloed by the town to clear cut trees.

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    Michele Schuckel

    6:14 am on Saturday, March 16, 2013

    I am in support of controlled hunting on town land in Weston. As a mother of three (and caregiver to a young child who has had Lyme), a nurse, and an avid gardener I do whatever I can to keep deer off my property but waving my arms, yelling when I see them, shiny objects, ‘fencing’ of fish line at the height of the neck of the deer, and strategically placed bars of Irish Spring soap really are not enough. I would not have been in favor of bow hunting had I not taken the time to get educated on the facts of both the behavior of the wild deer population in our area and the safe practices of bow hunting. The science behind arrow trajectory and angles of arrow flight as well as the detailed process of permitting for hunting leave me assured that this practice is safe and should continue on town land.
    More and more towns are considering controlled bow hunting as a means of deer population management leading me to believe that, if we work together, we will be able to bring the numbers of deer per square mile down to a reasonable level. http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/news/x1890059122/More-towns-consider-deer-hunting-to-curtail-population?photo=0

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    Dan

    5:10 pm on Thursday, March 28, 2013

    Well said Michele.

    Have any of the Weston Deer Friends ever seen an emaciated deer? If you haven't yet, you will in a few years when the deer population is completely out of control.

    The state of maryland has used it in isolated areas and it costs up to $1,000 to adminster the birth-control to each deer. Which has to be administered each year, the following year the doe is 80% likely to become pregnant. Also, once it is given the birth-control it is unsuitable for human consumption. So if that deer goes to an adjacent town allows hunting and the hunter tries to harvest the deer they cannot eat the meat and it is a waste of an animal's life due to Weston's birth control program.

    Alexander Davis

    8:56 pm on Saturday, March 30, 2013

    It is appalling that animal rights activists care more about the rights of deer than they care about the health of our children. Children are the group at highest risk for Lyme disease, which can cause crippling arthritis and brain damage. The deer tick also infects us with four other known diseases including babesiosis and anaplasmosis, both of which can be fatal. The wise residents of Monhegan Island ME and Mumford Cove CT ended their Lyme epidemics by removing the deer. This works because deer are key to the reproductive success of the deer tick. The adult egg-laying deer tick requires a sizeable mammal to feed on, and 95% feed on deer. Estimates are that ticks from just one deer can produce up to a million tick eggs per season. The adult egg-laying tick cannot feed on a mouse, although immature non-egg-laying ticks can. Without eggs there are no ticks. Without ticks we are in no danger from tick-borne illness. Consider ticks like dirty needles. The deer coat our yards and neighborhoods with tick eggs making nature a danger rather than a pleasure. Shame on those who protect the deer's right to infect us. This is inhumane. The deer epidemic caused the Lyme epidemic. In 1930 there were 300,000 deer in the US. Today there are 30 million. There has never been a Lyme epidemic in the absence of deer. Deer can be controlled by hunting or by professional sharpshooters who lure deer into fenced-in "clover traps". The nation's public health should be our top priority.

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    Isabella Jancourtz

    5:44 pm on Thursday, May 16, 2013

    Mr. Conservationist, you called animal rights activists terrorists in another Patch post today as an excuse for not using your real name.
    Here you suggest that I could be charged with harassment for calling the Weston P.D. when my husband and I observed a bow hunter on private property clearly marked "No Hunting."
    He had been standing on the other side of a pond and about 50' from our road for some time, because when my husband got home from his walk and told me, I was shocked and decided to walk over with him to check this out. The law does not allow hunting within 150' of a road or within 500' of a house. He was both.
    Why did I call the police? Well, the hunter was still standing in the same spot, so I yelled out that he wasn't allowed to hunt there. What was his response? To slink off into the woods, without saying a thing.
    This was 8am on November 23, 2012, according to the police report which I obtained today in response to your post. I find it instructive that you are aware of this incident which I reported in the Weston Town Crier several months ago, after the Con Com came out with a report claiming that the hunting had been incident free. But they're still clueless.
    In fact, children and adults have been traumatized by seeing wounded deer, running through their yards or on the streets in town.
    There is something so creepy about armed men in camo refusing to identify themselves. Same goes for those who rage on the page, hiding behind a pseudonym.

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    Conservationist

    10:43 pm on Thursday, May 16, 2013

    I did not call all animal rights activists terrorists I just stated that some are in this country. I am sure that you are not one. Just because a person is standing in the woods with hunting gear on does not mean they are hunting. A hunter can walk along a road or next to a house as long as he does not discharge a weapon. This hunter could have had permission from the landowner who posted it. The land could have been illegally posted. He could have been observing nature or he could have seen some deer and did not want to spook them. Could he have been someone trespassing... maybe. If it wasn't your land, I don't see where it was any of your business anyway. Maybe the landowner gave permission but was afraid of you and did not want to divulge that. I doubt he had anything to do with the town program. The good thing with the program is there is accountability and if you do get a bad apple you can pull his permit. I am only aware of this incident because of your post.
    I have three kids and I don't know any kids or adults that would be traumatized by a wounded deer. Feel bad yes but traumatized is a bit of a stretch. You have a great chance of seeing a deer that was wounded by a vehicle or a coyote.
    Talk to hunters sometime, I think you will be less creeped out and might even gain a friend or two. Hunters are just your average doctor, lawyer, teacher and coaches. they are just normal people and community leaders who enjoy the outdoors and eat deer.

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